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  JW views on saving and retirement

  by neat blue dog in

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  2. beliefs

  probably one of the most common causes of cognitive dissonance many jws face is the choice to plan for retirement.

  if you're a good jw, then you should believe that the end will be coming soon, surely before you retire.

  that's what i did when i was younger, blowing decades that could've been better spent because i believed the end was coming, so any planning was a waste of time.

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  Balaamsass2

  Pioneering wife #1 went ballistic when she noticed my payroll deductions for the 401k, IRA, and various insurances back in 1985. She went to the elders and "turned me in" for my lack of faith. lol. She even had two elders come and council me for my "lack of faith" in the coming destruction of the evil system.

  (She left me 1990 ( thankfully!) saying my "lack of faith" was spiritually damaging her...and pioneered..until she ran out of that evil $$, had to work fulltime, and then decided to shack up with a wealthy attorney to support her,....who soon dumped her. She ended up a penniless bag lady in her late 60s.)

  Yes, so true. I wanted to have a savings account. My wife insisted Armageddon was coming and we would not need it. Two young daughters, a mortgage and a good paying job. We could have saved a tidy sum. But there would have been no peace in the house so I gave in. She bought lots of stuff. Then the split. 20 years later I am saving like crazy. Over $2000 a month and counting each dollar to see how long it will last me. With pensions I am at about 10 years after retirement, which is still down the road and I am 68. Good job, good pay and probably working until 72 and saving like crazy, sacrificing everything to make sure I have some money when I am 85. If I die before then the kids can have it. Where is she? How much money does she have to live on? Don't know and don't care.
  
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  Greta Thunberg...what’s your view of her?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  she certainly is passionate about climate change.

  🤔.

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  At first I was cynical but now I am enjoying listening to her. Obviously a young'un and dillusional. For a young Swede she speaks very good English. I suppose Swedish education makes learning English compulsory. Either that or they are intelligent enough to know you have to speak English in our modern world to succeed on the world stage.

  It seems to me that a foreigner who speaks good English, but with a heavy accent, can get more attention than one who only speaks English. She also speaks with a seriousness beyond her years. What the Bible may call, "Speaking with authority." Anyway, I would rather she be touring and giving speeches than not.
  
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  JW's revelling in their online statistic...

  by The Fall Guy in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ...that their web site is the most translated in the world.. https://www.tomedes.com/translator-hub/most-translated-website.php.

  do jw's genuinely believe that statistics prove divine backing?

  you can fool some of the people some of the time...there are lies, damned lies, and statistics!.

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  Another proof of divine favour.

  Watchtower organization has the world's largest fleet of magazine carts.
  
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  What The Fossils Say

  by cofty in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  the old creation book had a lot to say about the fossil record.

  if i remember correctly it was some lie about all the fossils ever found would fit on a single table.

  the reality is that there is an embarrassment of riches illustrating the evolution of life.

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  Cofty - Every living thing - including the 99% of species that are long extinct evolved from a common ancestor over millions of years.

  What an amazing bullshit statement.
  
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  Just for fun...

  by Vidiot in

  1. social
  2. entertainment

  …(and for the very first time), i thought i'd post a new topic completely non-wt-related... about a subject matter i have a particular affinity for.... ..i'm a major movie geek (most people here already know that), but one of the many things i especially like are what i call "middle-finger victory lines".. they are memorable (and extremely quotable) moments of dialogue, wherein the protagonist says an extremely cool or badass comment to a very deserving defeated opponent.... ...usually (but not always) said when victory has just been literally snatched from the clutches of certain defeat, and serving as a tall, proud, and victorious flipoff to the often (but not always) shocked-at-the-sudden-turn-of-events enemy.. my ten favorites:.

  "smile, you sonofabitch.

  "sheriff brody to the shark......just before firing his last bullet into a scuba tank lodged in the charging shark's open jaws.jaws (1975).

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  Andy Devine to Fred McMurray as they ride away on horse back,

  "There's nothing that will help a man's hearing like a 45 stuck in his left ear."

  The Egg and I
  
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  The Latest From The Loony Left

  by Simon in

  1. social
  2. current

  so apparently, not only can people identify as men or women, regardless of reality, but they've now declared that people can identify as black or white as well!

  no word yet from rachel dolezal, who will no doubt be declared a visionary, and sadly michael jackson didn't live long enough to celebrate.. i must say, now that i am a black woman, my views on reparations have completely changed.

  y'all owe me some reparations bitches to make up for slavery yo.

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  Finally Simon comes out. I suspected it all along. You have given me courage.

  Okay, here goes. I am no longer a 67 year old, 5 foot 10 inch white male. I am now a 30 year old, 6 foot 2 inch Asian male with all of my teeth and a full head of hair. I have been asking 25 year old Asian women out on dates and not one has accepted my invitation. NOT ONE! This is so offensive to me, a young Asian male. This must be a hate crime of some kind and I may go to the authorities to have them charged. I am so angry.
  
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  If I was still PIMI, I'd be terrified

  by neat blue dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  just looking at the pictures in tomorrow's wt study makes me think of the nightmares i used to have as a child.

  and nowadays the pictures are sometimes more realistic, so for any who are truly mentally in, this has a terrible effect on them and even their life choices.

  looking in as a pimo or pomo it seems almost comical that adults would believe in this sci-fi bible fan-fiction, but it's not funny when we remember that all ages of the r&f are being manipulated by the gb by these cheap and evil means.. .

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  On the other hand if it wasn't for the ORG I never would have been entertained by a picture of a bunch of white haired bearded guys flying over a suburban house and about to lay a licking on a fully geared swat team. I would definitely pay to see that show.
  
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  Vancouver B.C. Craigslist sale - How many do you recongnize.

  by Esse quam videri in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  note: i am not the one selling these.

  just for your viewing enjoyment.. [yes, i know i misspelled 'recognize' but you will notice the 'cong', short for congregation.

  1930's to modern (96pc) jehovah witnesses book collection + annuals

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  Note: I am not the one selling these. Just for your viewing enjoyment.

  [Yes, I know I misspelled 'recognize' but you will notice the 'cong', short for congregation. Just co-incidence?

  1930's to Modern (96pc) Jehovah Witnesses Book Collection + Annuals
  
  Over $500 - $1,000 in Value here for a Great Deal!
  
  Easy Ground Level Loading for Pick Up or Immediate Delivery Available for a Fee.
  
  Please CALL or TEXT for a Fast Reply and Please INCLUDE Your Name & the Item Title.
  
  Thank You!
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  Publisher ID - I Saw It In Person & It Was Terrifying!

  by thedepressedsoul in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i'd like to start off this post by saying, we all know that the wt loves control.

  it's clear by their history, their wt's, the elder arrangement and so on.

  however, after witnessing and using the publish id program in person, it takes this need for control to a whole new level & it was scary.. if you've ever seen builder assist (the website program used for ldc volunteers) or the metro program, it actually looks pretty similar to that.

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  tiki asks "But why? For what reason are they maintaining such a massive database?"

  We can reverse this scenario and ask, " For what reason would the publishers want a massive data base on the elders, traveling overseer's and the Governing Body?"

  We should also ask what kind of information should be in the data base and which the publishers would have easy access to?
  

  First, the kind of information.

  - Mental capacity/health/defects/handicaps

  - Physical capacity/health/handicaps
  

  - Education - all aspects including grade school, college, courses, university etc.

  - Work experience - type of work, position, performance,

  - Criminal records

  - Marital relationship[s] - number and gender of children / age / standing in congregation [ wife's also]
  

  - Record of time spent in field ministry since baptism
  

  - Number of bible studies conducted [ past and present]
  

  - Names, locations and dates of all congregations attended since baptism

  - Positions held in congregation [dates and locations]
  

  - Records of disciplinary action taken by the congregation

  - Basically an exhaustive resume of someone to whom you will entrust your care and the care of your family.
  

  Now what would be the list of reasons for every publisher to have easy access to all of this information?
  
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  Role Call, Number of Family Members Who Have Shunned You!

  by The Bethelite in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  just one left, my sister.

  i haven't talk to her in over 15 years.

  the rest are all dead.. i'm not counting my ex wife and all her family.... .

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  Shunning is not necessarily a bad thing. It separates the quality from the riff-raff.

  Saves you the trouble.